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Post by Josh on Jun 6, 2010 6:13:52 GMT -5
I had a friend tell me you can take a ruger 10-22, change the barrel and a spring and turn it into a semi-auto .17cal mach2(10-17m2)......Have any of you seen one of these in action?
I believe a 17 mach2 is just a 22 long necked down to a .17cal, and a 17hmr is a 22 mag necked down to a .17cal....I think.
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Post by backwoodsman68 on Jun 6, 2010 7:57:54 GMT -5
Ive seen the conversion kits for sale. Im not sold on the .17's so I dont keep up on them but the .22mag case was a base for the .17, but which one I dunno?
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Post by minnesotascott on Jun 6, 2010 21:10:14 GMT -5
I have seen those kits myself also. I dont have a .17 rf, both of my .17's are centerfire. Much more of a round then the rimfire.
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Post by backwoodsman68 on Jun 8, 2010 0:07:57 GMT -5
Not to offend anyone but the rimfire .17's havent impressed me at all and I dont feel they are a viable coyote round. The old 5mm was more impressive but didint get the hype. Several friends went and jumped on the bandwagon 4 or 5 years ago and all but one sold their .17's and ammo. First yote I called into a buddy with his then new .17 absorbed 3 rounds and wasnt hardly fazed at all till he stopped a .303. Last decade we've taken probably an average of 20 yotes hunting/calling each year and a few years we've taken near to or a little over 50 and Ive only seen a few yotes fall to one shot from a .17 out of about 15(+/- a few) that Ive been present to observe. Seem to be a good light varmint round with fox being about the biggest target. They are a deadly little round for stalking and long range squirrels but my .22 magnum is too and if I shop around I can feed it for about 1/3. Some like them for groundhogs but Ive had limited experience with the two.
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Post by minnesotascott on Jun 8, 2010 6:53:16 GMT -5
I think the .17 mach 2 migh tmake a good round for jackrabbit, ok maybe a dwarf bunny. Its to light and not enuff zip for anything much bigger.
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Post by Josh on Jun 11, 2010 14:40:21 GMT -5
The regular .17hmr makes a great coon hunting gun. Longer rang accuracy than a 22 mag, and no exit holes in hide. I'm sold on it for coons, but like you guys said, it's not much of a coyote gun. I prefer a 12guage for close range with 3 inch 4 shot and a 22-250 or 223 for longer ranges.
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Post by backwoodsman68 on Jun 14, 2010 9:04:42 GMT -5
Ive heard quite a few coment about no exit holes. The little 'polymer"bullet explodes inside the target? That no.2 shot is bad medicine for yotes too. We make a "duplex" load of 4's and 2's also. Buckshot is illegal to have in the field here. BB is the largest lead etc shot we can have in the field and they just changed the rules on non toxic stuff and made the regs smaller for it too I believe. Copper plated turkey loads in no.2 work good and I buy a few box's on clearence every spring. I like mixed shot loads alot but commercial loads are almost non-existent. Depending on the intended target duplex type loads are handy in our flinters/muzzleloaders.
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Post by stickbowhntr on Jun 14, 2010 10:58:08 GMT -5
jsoh, why do you feel its a better long range round and why do you need that in calling coons? I never have had to shoo them >40 yards when calling.
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Post by stickbowhntr on Jun 14, 2010 10:58:41 GMT -5
AND YES I believe a 17 mach2 is just a 22 long necked down to a .17cal, and a 17hmr is a 22 mag necked down to a .17cal....I think.
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Post by backwoodsman68 on Jun 14, 2010 13:53:55 GMT -5
Ive found a use for .22 magnum even when coon hunting for those big boars in the top of oaks. When varmint calling the .22mag makes a good compromise round for saving coon and fox hides and still killin yotes. Is there a .17 rimfire a little more potent then the ones that are commonly known? Ive shot the centerfire .17's before years ago but they go thru barrels quick, ammo is high and hard to find plus for fox and coon hides theyre a little rough. We had a bolt action .218 Bee(?)that was a good yote and fox cartridge. Anyone ever try the .22 Hornet? Its one of my favorites. Careful shots on fox and coon wont tear them up too much and its plenty for yotes. Commercial fodder for it still isnt too high.
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Post by Josh on Jun 15, 2010 16:11:03 GMT -5
jsoh, why do you feel its a better long range round and why do you need that in calling coons? I never have had to shoo them >40 yards when calling. I've never called coons before, but shine them at night in trees. Sometimes the only shot you can get in the top of a tree might be more than 100 yards.
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Post by backwoodsman68 on Jun 15, 2010 19:56:38 GMT -5
Wow, Ive never shot a coon that far whether hounding or shining. We ahve taken a few out around 60-100 when calling at dawn or dusk. Makes sense shooting that far to need something with a little thump to it. Still takes coons clean that far?
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Post by Josh on Jun 17, 2010 1:44:25 GMT -5
Still takes coons clean that far? Haven't had a problem yet......Keeping my fingers crossed! ;D It just seems like the 22mags really tear them up. The .17hmr seems like the fur damage is a lot less, but the skulls are usually pretty "deflated" as I call it. Which sometimes can get a little messy.
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Post by backwoodsman68 on Jun 18, 2010 9:18:09 GMT -5
Ah, yeah but other rounds deflate the skulls too so that might be a better pick.
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Post by trapperjonny on Jun 22, 2010 14:36:57 GMT -5
Sounds like the old argument between the 7mm-08 and the. 308. One's heavier and one's faster... I love my .17hmr and while its not the best yote round, as far as MER goes, its my favorite for rimfires. Jonny
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